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Who says people with Asperger's can't interact socially?
As a person with Asperger’s, I of all people know that it is a social disorder. I understand that the subject also exhibits repetitive and anti-social behavior. However, I know we can be trained to interact and read people. It’s just like learning to play a sport and perform some other craft. For some it’s natural; for other it’s inductive. Generally speaking, I think people from major cities are more street smart than those from rural areas. They deal with street logic every day, so it happens involuntarily. I grew up in a rundown working class community in Houston (the fourth largest metropolis in America behind Chicago.) Many of the gangs and inner city problems overran my neighborhood. By the time I was diagnosed at age 19, I’d also lived in New York, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia. So I’d been around the block and had more life experience than most of the others in my group who lived sheltered lives in smaller communities. Nature plays a big part, but nurture plays another. Hence the expression, "people are products of their environments." Whats more, I’m the youngest of four kids, and I was raised by a single mom. My absentee father was hardly ever around when I needed them. Most Aspies I’ve known were only children, and their parents weren’t divorced. Their upbringing was night-and-day compared to mine. Last but not least, I served three-and-a-half years in the military. Two of those years, I spent all alone in San Francisco (more than 1,000 miles away from everybody with no support.) I literally was forced into an environment where I had to adapt and overcome. Tony Attwood explained that Aspies use their crystallized intelligence and learn to interact with people through reasoning rather than intuition. Our interpersonal skills are acquired through induction rather than induction. It then becomes empirical data. So where is it written in stone that people with Asperger’s Syndrome cannot become more people savvy?
who ever wrote that was a moron. like how you took my spin on environment pal! If we are going to add things like where you live into the mix I think we should also add gender. I think girls tend to blend in more than the boys do. my experience, I have a daughter. you are very right that aspies can be taught how to adjust.I probably was considered one mean mommy because because I threw my daughter into situations where she had to learn to adapt and socialize. she was also taught good manners.as far as her being an only child no way she has a brother and a large extended family so that helped. many parents consider a diagnoses of autism/ aspergers like it is the end of the world. Its not by a long shot. there is nothing a child with aspergers can’t do that a "normal child" can. sometimes it just takes a little longer with the social part.you have shared with us just that and to be honest if we got to looking at our family trees I think we would all find someone who was a tad different and would fall into the aspie category.what needs to happen is more education on aspergers that is positive.Being an aspie has not hindered my daughter in any way, yes as a parent I have concerns for her but guess what, I’d have those same exact concerns if she wasn’t an aspie.as for her, she is main streamed in school and competes with kids her own age academically, she is on the merit roll and is taking medical assisting in vocational school right now but plans on going to college too, she participates in the school newspaper,drama club, chorus,FCCLA, and attends church. over the summer she volenteered at the community play ground.so in my opinion she has adapted rather well.I treat her just like any other teenager.she is no different than anybody else, if God wanted to make her the same he would have made everyone with aspergers thats the spin on aspergers here in our home.personally I think she is pretty savvy!
| Nov 08, 2009
i think i might have aspergers but ive never been diagnosed, but i interact with people but i find that people dont accept me cause im too different from them so its hard for me to have a social life. i know what you mean about intelligence, i think thats part of it, i have more common sense about stuff than the people i see every day. i think people with aspergers can become people savvy, but the question is will people accept them cause theyre different, i find people dont accept me.
Pearl L | Nov 08, 2009
I think perhaps it’s more of a broad generalization that people use to help characterize or define Asperger’s… and like most generalizations, it’s not without support. But, of course, it’s not gonna be entirely accurate, either.
And I’m sure everyone is affected slightly differently by it– at least, from the Aspies I’ve met, that certainly appears to be the case. They have all been fairly unique from each other, personality-wise. In your case, it sounds like you’re a lot more people-savvy than most other Aspies because of your life experiences– and possibly because you weren’t diagnosed younger, so perhaps that also gave you a different experience than someone who had grown-up knowing they had a social disorder.
Just goes to show, you can’t ever take the person out of the equation, no matter what the equation may be. 
Kristen | Nov 08, 2009
If you didn’t inform us all about your Asperger’s, I wouldn’t know. I wouldn’t even know what it IS! So I am convinced. Thanks.
DiggerRama JPA | Nov 09, 2009
It doesn’t do a lot of good to listen to doctors too much —They are a crowd that will cut off you’re balls kill your baby stick their fingers up your butt and lob off a piece of your brain for a few bucks —– not the most reputable of professions
You know better than to ask the barber if you need a haircut — that logic apples to people selling "help" equally as well
Trout | Nov 09, 2009
I sure don’t - I have a good friend with Asperger’s and he is also somewhat autistic. He recently moved, so I probably will not see him much anymore, but in the close to 20 years that we lived near each other I was able to see him accomplish many things, such as finishing high school, training for and holding down a few jobs, making new friends, and so on. We would have the most incredible conversations about things sometimes, because he could handle it by pacing back and forth and avoiding eye contact and I could handle it by focusing on the conversation itself. Someplace outdoors was always better for talking too, less of a feeling of being boxed in or trapped. I think that people with Asperger’s are just like everyone else - they are people, and we all learn how to be more people savvy as we have chances to make new friends. You have accomplished a lot in your life, for a person with or without Asperger’s
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Rock Candy | Nov 09, 2009
some can interact better than others depends on the sevirity of their disease.
Jeff R | Nov 09, 2009
I don’t know that it is written in stone. Often we have to look at how new something is to the awareness of the public & the experts. We might be in the "stone age" as far as what can be learned about this & the many other things that make people unique. I think when a person is not the same as others in any way such as a gift or talent or something else like that they can often work at it to be the best they can be. Basketball players for example have shown with a lot of work they can become professions. It is hard to tell where the difference is in the work they did or just sheer natural ability. I don’t see you as someone who let’s others put limits on what you are capable of doing. So I look forward to seeing how you challenge yourself in developing in the area of people savviness.
CoachingU2Win | Nov 10, 2009
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